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April 18, 2002



Smuggled from a Cuban prison

Ricardo Gonzalez Alfonso. Posted on Thu, Apr. 18, 2002 in The Miami Herald.

These are excerpts from a written interview with Cuban activist Vladimiro Roca, a member of the Internal Dissidence Working Group, who has been in prison since July 16, 1997, for helping draft a manifesto for a peaceful change to democracy, titled The Homeland Belongs to Us All. He was charged with sedition.

The questions, from independent journalist Ricardo González Alfonso, were smuggled into Ariza Prison by anonymous sympathizers. Roca's answers were similarly smuggled out.

Roca, 59, the son of Cuban Communist Party cofounder Blas Roca Calderío, is president of the Social Democratic Party (considered illegal in Cuba) and the most famous Cuban to break with Fidel Castro's regime and join the dissident movement.

• Why do you believe the Cuban government keeps you in prison and doesn't release you on parole?

Anything I might say about the reasons why I wasn't granted parole would be merely speculation. I can state only the following: I was given the maximum sentence [five years] and sent to the Ariza Prison. Here I spent two years, five months and 17 days in solitary confinement. When I asked a major from State Security why, he told me: "Let's say it was by mistake.''

I think that this question should be answered by the pertinent authorities.

• Describe the prison conditions and how you spend your time.

I am in a cubicle about 10 meters long by two meters wide. Seven meters are set aside for the dormitory (three bunk beds); three meters for the service area (latrine and kitchen), very humid, like the cells.

Two of us live here now, although last year there were six of us.

My basic activities during the day are: prayer, clean-up and reading. I read everything that falls into my hands that either interests me or provides spiritual improvement.

I go out in the sun two or three times a month. I watch television two or three times a week, almost always a newscast and occasionally a movie.

• Has prison changed you from a human and political point of view?

It's impossible for someone to go through prison and not change his way of acting or thinking. What needs to be specified is in what direction: for good or for bad? It's an extraordinary experience.

Politically speaking, imprisonment has strengthened my convictions about the justice of my struggle to achieve democratic changes in Cuba. In prison, one gets to know in depth the system's injustice and true measure.

On the human side, my faith in God has increased. He has opened my eyes to the struggle that we must wage to change the material and spiritual conditions of prison life. This element must be incorporated into the struggle for democratic changes.

• What has been your toughest day in prison? If you had a happy day, when was it and why?

My toughest day was Nov. 19, 1997, when I walked into isolation cell No. 23. The place didn't look like a cell; it resembled a cage meant to hold wild animals.

I found myself in a narrow, dirty and foul-smelling cell. My only belongings were a towel, my Bible, two handkerchiefs, two pairs of shorts, a bar of facial soap, a bar of laundry soap, a tube of toothpaste, two shorts, two sleeveless shirts, a bedsheet, a bed-mat made of cane and a futon covered with burlap, both crawling with bedbugs.

I really didn't think I could stand it for long. However, I prayed to God for help -- and here I am, two years and almost six months in solitary and about to complete my entire sentence.

My happiest day was Sept. 24, 1999, day of Our Lady of Mercy, patron saint of prisoners, when I received the Sacrament of Baptism.

• During your childhood, you were given an atheistic education, but as an adult you converted to Catholicism. What experiences brought about that change?

I wouldn't say that I was given an atheistic education. Although my father was not a believer, he respected everyone else's beliefs. He also taught me that to deny God's existence, one must have irrefutable evidence -- and I didn't have that.

The experiences that brought about the change were, first, the search for love, as opposed to the politics of hatred promoted by the Cuban government. That search led me to find Christ and discover that He is the greatest expression of love.

In making an appraisal of my life, I realized how often God had joined me in my path, helping me and saving my life on three occasions. I began to study the Bible and absorb the teachings of Christ.

• What are your first and last remembrances of your father? Have those experiences influenced your present life in prison?

I can tell you what remembrance of my father most easily comes to my mind.

One time, I returned home speaking ill of a person. When my father heard me, he asked me why I spoke that way, and I answered that I was repeating what a friend had told me.

My father said that before expressing an opinion about someone, I had to be sure of what I was saying and not allow myself to be swayed by what others had said, otherwise I'd be a puppet of someone else's opinion.

He told me to do research and to analyze and shape my own ideas and defend them until someone else proved me wrong.

I most often recall the time the Civil Code was approved. I read it and told my father that it was useless because it contained many incongruences regarding the right of ownership and the relationship between private individuals and state enterprises. I said that no one could understand the code for it was so strange and complex.

He replied: "The Civil Code and the current laws have many faults, true, but we had to replace the old 19th Century Code because it didn't apply to the new conditions. The current laws contain elements that will allow those who come behind us to improve them.''

Both remembrances have influenced the decisions I've made. They help me a great deal now, and they always will influence my life.

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