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December 27, 2005
 

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The Miami Herald

'My interest is the future'

The new head of the U.S. Interests Section in Cuba discusses the island, its people, and what's to come

By Frances Robles. frobles@MiamiHerald.com. Posted on Sun, Dec. 25, 2005.

Michael Parmly arrived in Havana in September as the new chief of the U.S. Interests Section. He succeeds James Cason, who had many public confrontations with the Fidel Castro government.

A career diplomat, Parmly has served in a number of countries emerging from conflicts, such as Afghanistan and Bosnia-Herzegovina.

He spoke to The Miami Herald last week. Here are excerpts from that interview.

Q: What were your first impressions of Cuba? Any surprises?

A: I go for long walks and go to places where Cubans are going to be. I stop at newsstands, paladares, walk out on a beach and talk to fishermen, talk to young people, talk to folks at baseball games. . . . I have actually been surprised by the extent of the creativity and spontaneity of the Cuban people. If you talk to people, they talk back to you. I talk not just to Cuban artists, musicians or independents.

It's the Cuban mind that's lively. That's going to come in handy when the (post-Castro) transition comes. They can think for themselves.

Q: Do you meet many people who vehemently defend Castro?

A: There is a certain number of people that believes in the system. To give you an example, I met a person who expressed skepticism of . . . dissidents, because they threaten the accomplishments of the revolution. . . .

She said everything she is and has accomplished is a product of the revolution. I didn't say it like this, but I thought, "How about giving yourself some credit, girl! You're a single mom who put herself through school . . . Your energy, your drive brought you to where you are.''

I enjoy hearing those views. The back and forth is interesting. I'm intrigued that I have those conversations -- I don't have many.

Q: Do you think you'll be the chief of the U.S. Interests Section during the transition?

A: If you operate with that mindset, you do a disservice to the people on the island today. We need to play for today while being concerned for tomorrow. That's what I think about every morning when I wake up: What can I do for people today? We stand ready to help them.

Q: Do you think your past diplomatic postings make you uniquely qualified for this job?

A: I don't know about uniquely qualified. I have come from a number of post-conflict societies engaged in long periods of difficultly. If there is one thing I came away from in Afghanistan it's to get as close to people as you can, because they are going to be the ones with the answers.

I don't come with prefabricated ideas of what needs to be done. I remember in Kandahar sitting on rugs in tents of tribal leaders. I used to say: If there's a chair in the room, it's not a legitimate conversation. If the guy has teeth, it's not a legitimate conversation.

Q: What is the thread that links all of these recent economic changes, from pay raises to electricity rate hikes?

A: Fear of change, trying to lock in a legacy that has never existed -- only apparently existed in somebody's mind. That's to me what this is about: fear of one's own population.

Q: Are you seeing an increase in attacks against dissidents? Why now?

A: I can't explain pathological behavior. One seeks an explanation . . . . Are we seeing this because people are aware of their own mortality? I don't know, and I don't choose those words lightly.

I suppose it's to get people to think they are the only ones that have those thoughts that oppose the regime. It's to get people to think, "You must be weird. You're all alone. No one thinks like that.''

Q: Fidel Castro mentions the prisoners at Guantánamo every chance he gets. Doesn't the detention of prisoners there hurt U.S. credibility?

A: I don't accept the lies as version of reality -- as opposed to legal procedures, the International Committee of the Red Cross' ability to monitor on a regular basis, ability of foreign governments to visit there. If anything, it's a statement for rule of law.

Q: I notice you never speak Fidel Castro's name.

A: I never met the man. When I see the senior leadership performing on TV, I scratch my head, because it's surreal. The logic is very hard to follow. The logic is from another place. The logic is very harsh and cruel. My interest is the future, and the Cuban people.

I am not an archaeologist.

ABOUT MICHAEL E. PARMLY

o Age: 54, born in St. Augustine.

o Bachelor's in International Relations and Latin American Studies from St. Joseph's College in Philadelphia, master's from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts in Massachusetts.

o Served as U.S. Peace Corps volunteer in Bucaramanga, Colombia, working in youth development.

o Married to Marie-Catherine, two children: Berengere Marie, 26, and Christopher Wells, 17.

o Former professor of National Security Studies at the National War College, specializing in post-conflict situations.

o A foreign service officer since 1977, his diplomatic postings have included Afghanistan, Paris, Sarajevo, Romania, Morocco and Spain.

o Speaks French, Spanish and Romanian.

Castro calls Rice 'mad'

In response to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's meeting with a U.S. government commission designed to prepare for a democratic transition in Cuba after Fidel Castro, the leader called Rice 'mad.'

From Miami Herald Wire Services. Posted on Sat, Dec. 24, 2005.

HAVANA - In an unusually harsh outburst, Cuban leader Fidel Castro Friday called U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ''mad'' and used a vulgar epithet to describe her special commission on the island's transition.

It was the first time in memory the 79-year-old Castro, who has been unusually aggressive in his recent public pronouncements, used the crude but common vulgarism in public, two longtime monitors of the Cuban media said.

Castro has become ''increasingly cantankerous for the last four years,'' said Brian Latell, a retired CIA analyst on Cuba and author of After Fidel, a new book about Castro and his brother, designated successor Raúl Castro.

In recent years Castro has harshly insulted presidents Vicente Fox of Mexico, Fernando de la Rúa of Argentina and Jorge Batlle of Uruguay. Last week, a top aide to Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula de Silva said Castro had called him a pendejo -- literally a pubic hair but also an epithet for a sniveling coward.

''The danger is that as he becomes more isolated because of his declining health and his age, he's becoming more cantankerous and . . . the quality of his leadership is deteriorating,'' Latell said.

CIA doctors recently concluded Castro suffers from Parkinson's, The Miami Herald reported last month.

Added one U.S. intelligence community member who studies Cuba: "Usually he has more elegant words at his command and doesn't have to lower himself to swear words like the one today.''

The communist leader's latest tirade against the United States was in response to Rice's meeting this week with a U.S. government commission designed to prepare for a democratic transition in Cuba after Castro.

''I am going to tell you what I think about this famous commission,'' Castro said, then using the barnyard epithet to describe the group to the Cuban parliament.

''In this context, it does not matter if it was the mad woman who talks of transition: It is a circus; they are completely depraved; they should be pitied,'' he added.

The attack followed Castro's comments on Thursday, when he called Michael Parmly, head of the U.S. Interests Section in Havana, a ''little gangster'' for criticizing the regime in a speech this month.

Cuban officials initially said very little about Parmly, who arrived in Havana in September. But he apparently hit a nerve during a Dec. 10 gathering at his residence to mark Human Rights Day.

Speaking to a group that included dissidents, Parmly praised the opposition while accusing Castro's government of repressing its citizens and singling out as ''particularly disgusting'' the practice in which government supporters surround dissidents' homes and hurl insults.

© 2005 MiamiHerald.com and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.


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